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Annette Raffan's avatar

This is curious and interesting, therefore I will comment with questions, if that's OK? I mean to ask these in a critical way, not in a disagreeing way! I've just finished applying for a job so I am in an odd brain space right now!

My first question is why do you choose the word 'goal'? I realise you put it in inverted commas indicating a level of uncertainty/ not-quite-the-right-term, but is it OUR goal that soil persists, not soils' goal?

Next thought, if soil is eroded, it does not 'disappear' it is just re-placed somewhere else. If the soil is at the bottom of a slope, does it not require the top of the slope to persist? In a similar vein, is the top of a mountain therefore anti-persistence? Is there spatial persistence? Temporal persistence? What about persistence between seasons? Biotic persistence? Some other dimension of persistence we don't understand?

What about peat soils (those pesky peats!!)? Persistence as you approach it would only apply to mineral soils.

Why do you include 'biota', but not plants? Are you proposing that soil needs biota but not plants? What about lichens and mosses and the like as first responders to exposed rock? They are certainly persistent photosynthesisers. Are you proposing a biota hierarchy of persistence?

I'll keep my own opinions about aggregate stability to myself (!), but considering pore structure, is having a 'persistent' pore structure actually desirable? Same goes for aggregate stability. Surely an aspect of soil is that it is dynamic and it 'turns over'? (Is there dynamic persistence I wonder?)

What is the relationship/divergence of persistence to resilience?

Don't feel you have to answer any/all these questions, but thought they might help you explore the idea further!

Allan Konopka's avatar

I remain skeptical of the idea that soil has a 'goal.' OTOH, I am attracted to the notion that soil represents a complex system of component parts (physical, chemical, and biological) and that these parts interact in ways that result in negative feedback loops (stabilizing) or positive feedback loops (often destabilizing)

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