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Tegan's avatar

Hiya,

Lovely post.

I always appreciate when senior academics acknowlege the luck and privilege element!

A bit separate, but I also think it's important to encourage ECRs to think more about if they actually want to be in academia as a first step to this process, and as something they should be reasking themselves throughout their career. Perhaps it might seem a bit silly to be saying this at the start of a of 'how to survive academia' career talk, but I feel that there is such a strong sense of 'succeeding and failing' when it comes to academia, that it can be quite easy to think that leaving means you didn't make it.... and that can perhaps make it harder for people to reassess if they are staying for the 'right reasons'.

I say this, perhaps obviously, as someone who is no longer in academia, but also as someone who- when they left- had multiple high level people come to me and state or even argue with me that because they believed that I *could* be a successful academic, that meant that I should stay.

Work is an important part of life, but even if it were the only important part of life (clearly not the case), it's very hard to know how talented you might be at other things, or how much they might make you happy, when you have only ever tried academia.

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Hannah's avatar

This is so important to think about, I believe! On the one hand, getting advice from more senior scientists is crucial because many of the "rules" for making it in academia aren’t written down and have to be learned from others. First-generation students really have a disadvantage partly because of that. So, thank you for giving advice to young scientists!

But survivorship bias is definitely an issue. As a junior researcher I often heard advice like "Just follow your dreams!", "Do what you’re interested in, no matter what others say!", and "Don’t compare yourself to others!". Yes, I believe the people giving this advice were genuine and it worked for them. But maybe it worked for them because they are brilliant and had great ideas, or because they were lucky and made an amazing discovery. It’s very naive to think that every young scientist following this kind of advice will “make it” in academia. Giving that kind of advice somehow (inadvertently) minimises the struggles that many have to go through to be successful.

I'm a senior scientist now and plan to leave academia sooner or later, but I've just watched some of your videos out of curiosity. I really like your nuanced approach to giving advice.

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